San Francisco

I ,lived in the east Bay for years and was only able to smoke on my roof. On the brighter not, I live in Galt now--about 1.5hr from you--and can smoke in the study and our newly completed smoking lounge. Feel free to come up anytime;-)

1. Pick up a set of BDUs (camoflage fatigues) from Goodwill.
2. Put them on and drive to Berkley.
3. Walk around campus and smoke your pipe at will, they'll be more offended by a military uniform than any other law you may be running afoul of.
4. Enjoy multiple pipes amid the hippy choruses of "Baby Killer!" and "Death to George Bush".

Sorry, I just couldn't resist. I've just never understood the politics of the left coast. If you were smoking the cheeba you could probably go wherever you wanted to and not be hassled but heaven forbid you smoke pipe tobacco thats so...Republican. Do you mean to say that smoking out on your own front porch is illegal out there? If this is true it is indeed a new high in left wing koolaid drinker stupidity.

I am not sure about the smoking policy in the building...but it is a public building because I live in an apartment...if I could afford a house around here...then I would just move back to the country in Oregon and retire right now...as much money as it would cost to buy a house here...hahaha...and it isn't too desirable in front of my bulding with all the homeless meth addicts hanging around hassling you for money...

and as tempting as a trip to berkeley sounds...I think I would rather make a trip out into the forest...though they would probably say I was trying to start a fire or something...I mean really though things aren't so bad...it is just that I don't own the place where I live...and I don't really know the city...sure I could find somewhere to smoke in peace if either of those two weren't the case...

now...if I get a free weekend I might have to take revrosso up on his offer...but it still would be nice to find a place that I can go on a day-to-day sort of basis...

Cheers,

Josh

I found this site about SF smoking laws when I was searching about the laws in my own state.

http://sftfc.globali...

SF is as bad as where I live. I can smoke at home but outside of there, I am pretty much restricted to my car and where ever the cigarette smokers are corralled-usually a street curb or out of sight behind some building like a crack fiend.

I hope you find some place soon.

I guess that nixes my idea of going out and smoking in a park...jeeze..."bans smoking in unenclosed areas under the jurisdiction of the City, including parks, squares, gardens, sport or playing fields."

that is just too much...this and more why I do not ever want to live in California...and I thought the governator was a cigar smoker...but I guess these are city ordinances...but really...I guess the city that seems so accepting about alternate lifestyles can be so un-accepting of someone smoking outside even...I mean really they are getting more smoke from these forest fires than they would from people smoking in parks...I mean maybe they should outlaw forest fires next...see how well that goes...

Cheers,
Josh

My girlfriend finds it silly, but I become enraged whenever I read about my city's latest proposed(which I am convinced is another term for 'soon to be enacted') smoking ban. I immediately start looking for real estate in neighboring New Hampshire. It's frustrating. My city also expresses an openness about accepting alternative lifestyles, but happily discriminates against the slightest tobacco use.

Don't give up yet. Like you said, you don't know the city too well. Once you do, there are probably hundreds of places to sit and smoke your Kaywoodie. Some forgotten pier, a cemetary, etc. Best of luck to you.