New York and Smokeless

and enjoy.

I must confess that of all the places in the far flung reaches I have visited the PRNY is by far the hardest to understand. Their culture is far too fast, the chip on the shoulder is far too large, and of all the obnoxious and offensive behavior that is not only tolerated but proudly worn as a badge of honor, they refuse even for a split second to let a man enjoy a pipe in peace. None for me thanks, I can see all the cranky Yankees I can stand right here in what was once layed back Old Florida. Don't know how many New Yorkers and Bostonites I've spoke to here that are all about telling you how great New York or Massachusetts is. My response? If it's so great up there why do millions of you flock to Flah-ri-da every year. Used to be they left in late February or early March and that was it but now they're buying houses and staying. If they would learn to speak the language and assimilate into Florida culture I wouldn't mind but they insist on bringing their obnoxious culture with them.

living there & then buggering off on holiday. But to GO there on holiday, without a pipe. I just don't understand it. NY is the archetypical big city, charming (I prefer London) if you like that kind of thing, but really, should anyone? You live in cities because you have no other choice, surely. Walks away shaking head, still ranting, steady stream of dribble runs from corner of mouth...

...not go amywhere without my pipe. Period. Life is a bore without my pipe.

I recently took a business trip to NJ, I bought 6 pipes and a few pouches of tobacco but I must say the environment was so damn restrictive that I smoked no more than 3 bowls the entire week. Who ever heard of having to leave a bar to go smoke!? What a neutered bunch of milktoasts this country has turned into.

wave in the direction of Connecticut and I'll wave back. I'm about 2 hours from the city.
As for Florida...I'm one Yankee that won't be moving down there...I dislike the heat more than cold!

... and wish to provide a "Smoking" establishment in Appleton, Wisconsin, one would have to establish a Private Club (not open to the public). And, that might work. Don't know for sure. We have a recent smoking ban in "any" building, tavern or restaurant building in this city if open to the public. Attemps are underway to make it State wide.

This reminds me of my ski trips to Salt Lake City, wherein, alcohol stores are owned and operated by the State (like Canada). And, alcohol is only served in Private Clubs not open to the public.

Wanting a drink one night I passed such a club, pressed the buzzer and was told someone would have to sponsor my admission into the club and to stand by. A moment later, the door opened and we were introduced to a patron sponsoring our admission and after that it was drinking and smoking as usual. From the inside of this place it appeared no different than any other tavern I had ever been in except there were no windows.

Maybe such a venture could work here and other places. Here in Appleton, you can't even smoke in a public park!

I have no idea how much longer that will last. Along the same lines the fourth of July fireworks display has always been in the park down on the Willamette river. Last fourth a friend of mine took his family to the fireworks show down there just as he has for a number of years. They took sodas and snacks with them as usual only to be told that no food or drink period would be allowed in the park for this event. It seems the city decided to let vendors set up in the park for the event and they didn't want anybody bringing their own food. If you wanted to eat or drink you would need to pay.

Public park, Independence Day, can't bring your own food......makes no sense to me.

I think it suggest something about the duality of man. After all what celebration of our independence and the culmination of the radical ideas of our founders about each person's right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness would be complete without some draconian, municipal government buffoon telling us exactly what goes and doesn't.

I grew up there. It was a great place to grow up. Eventually, I had to get out and see the rest of the world. I find that living in a large city can be so insulating. I have friends who have never left the confines of NYC. They tell me that they have everything that they need there. Why would they leave. That's my point exactly. That's why i had to get out.

NYC and NJ generally went smoke-free before Phila, but now most of the NYC-DC corridor is smokeless. There may be a place or two in Delaware, but the major resorts, like Rehoboth Beach, have no banned smoke from the BOARDWALK. WTF is this about? The BOARDWALK where there's a breeze 24/7 all year long. Not smoke, they say, but sanitation w/ cleaning up the butts and stubbed cigarettes. Sad, because while so many would categorize it as being a liberal-conservative confrontation, both parties and the majority of the citizens whatever their politics support this nonsense. Another victory for bad science and the legacy of the large macro-invertebrates who govern.

We are the antediluvians, the last libertarians. And, I won't go to the NYC pipeshow because smoking is prohbited everywhere.

who spend day after day in a large city, breathing exaust fumes and all other kinds of toxic crap apparently without a care in the world. Then when they get a whiff of tobacco smoke they fan their faces and run for cover. Foolish, foolish people.

Boy, not too many NYC lovers here, eh? For some reason, I am not one bit surprised. However, we love the city and go about once a year. I have been home for less than an hour and am ready to go back.

Concerning smokers in New York, they are everywhere. A very large percentage of the people walking along the street are smoking cigarettes. Many more than I see wandering around smoking in urban areas in the Midwest. Plus, I could not walk a block without seeing and/or smelling a cigar. There were many more of those than I remember in the past.

Alas, I did not see a single pipe, except for those in the tobacco store case.

Pittsburgh has just gone completely smokeless. I live in a congested small town north of the city, incessant automobile traffic. It really is a joke when I see the village idiots sitting outside at the local national coffee chain, sipping on their $4 coffee, looking at me as if I were a threat to society, smoking my pipe.

The exhaust fumes are positively overwhelming, but Heaven forbid! Pipe smoke.