House Votes to Let FDA Regulate Tobacco

is that there is no such thing as a "free" country anymore. I personally regard the US very highly. The 300 million people who set the pace for the 6.7 billion on the globe must be something special. But the US is no longer free. Not like it was. There is a creeping tide of socialism leaking across the free nations of the Western world. The pioneer spirit is a shadow of what it was. Diluted by do-gooders with global ambitions & victim mentalities. Government continues to take a larger slice of the cake, redistributing it inefficiently & undermining initiative. Now they prescribe that adverts must be in black & white & pontificate whether menthol is an Afrophiliac. Good grief. What have we allowed?

Having blustered, let me say that, while my heart is in Africa, my head assures me that the US is the place to be.

Muddler your comments are spot on. This once great country is now full of sniveling victims, and so called social reformers who figure the only way for people to run their lives is to let the government do it. This just totally runs against all the principles this country was founded on. This do nothing Congress is a particular bur in our ass. These people have a 9% approval rating and are all getting paid enormous quantities of money to do absolutely nothing. Out in the real world, these people would have been fired a long time ago. Someone needs to reign in on these bastards, most have truly lost sight of what they're really supposed to be doing. Here's what I mean.

What we needed was a comprehensive energy plan to include additional domestic drilling to assist in the short term while we can figure out and exploit alternative energy (electric cars, wind, solar and nuclear for power production etc.) What Congress gave us was an official apology for slavery (which ended in 1865)

What we needed was for these people to take a leadership role and do something to help out our economy (which is gradually going down the toilet) and an unemployment rate that goes up daily. What Congress gave us was a consorted effort to allow openly homosexual people to serve in the military. After so many days of doing nothing they were all quite exhausted I'm sure and so voted to adjourn for a couple months of paid vacation before they come back and start giving Americans the high hard one again. Our goverment and our nation is indeed a shadow of its once great self.

The first obvious thing I noticed is that this was a party line vote for the Democrats. This worries me as more and more all we get from the house and senate is party line votes. Something clearly has to change and I'm going to do my part to fix things by tossing the whole batch of them out of office this November.

The second thing that glared off the page at me was "The legislation would finance the F.D.A.’s tobacco supervision primarily through new fees paid by tobacco companies that are earmarked for that purpose." ...... translation: a new fee that the tobacco companies would of course funnel down to the end user. Higher prices for tobacco. Woohoo. It seems the Democrats have decided they don't have the balls to make tobacco illegal (since most of the country would uprise instantly) so they've chosen to do all they can to make tobacco so expensive that the average Joe can't afford it. Its a slick (dare I say "Slimy") idea - more revenue for the politicians and less smokers. The only loser is the smoker. Oh yeah, and the idea of personal Liberty is taken away but peshaw, thats such an old idea anyway right? NO WAY!

The decision ... screw 'em all, I'm going to place the mother of all tobacco purchases this weekend. I think its time I make that stash downstairs into a 15 year supply (at least).

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Edit: No, I'm not going to rush this order! I learned a long time ago to "Act", not "React". I was reacting and that is stupid. I am going to place a freekin huge order soon but I still have a couple of tins of Rattrays blends on the shelf that I haven't popped yet. One or more of those will surely be in the order. Already Old Gowrie has won its way into my favored tobacco list. So. A little more testing and THEN the order goes in. In the mean time I save more money so the order just gets bigger and bigger.

the prudent thing to do is buy now. The net present value of buying tobacco now is higher than the net present value of savings spent on tobacco later. The reason is that the rate of price increase on tobacco (IMO) will outstrip any rate of return on money invested. So, buy now, smoke later. Muddler wisdom.

Just until I've tried those three Rattrays blends (Marlin Flake, Hal-o-the-somethingorother, and Brown Clunee) and also Dunhill Light Flake and Solani Silver Flake. From all I've heard here on MPC as well as on tobaccoreviews.com, I'm in for some fine smoking time in the near future. Some if not all of them will make it onto the list before I pull the trigger. Some etailer is going to be very happy that day.

The USA is the laughing stock of the world, the dollar has gone to shit, bird brians continue to get elected, government agencies are the most useless entities ever created, Dingell is nothing but a whore that has voted against every carbon emissions regulation ever considered, yea he cares about clean air. If nicotine is a drug then they better tax all the patch and gum addicts the same as the smokers even if it dries up the funding of the friggin' idiots at the AHA and ALA.

Ahhhh, anything else. Yes - extends middle finger and offers a big FU,

Order just received, order more next week and order a butt load more when I get a tenant.

To my Russian friend, Misha if you have any pull in Moscow have them send a Nuke to Washington.

What really fries my eggs about this is the same idiots that want to take away our tobacco want to make pot legal. WTF. I simply will never understand this. Other than the fact that these same politicians are tokin' up a storm in their own homes so of course that's grounds enough to make it legal. A$$holes.

you need to try on South African politics if you ever get frustrated! Oh the joyous Afrologic, the socialistic joyride, the endemic victimhood, the wholesale sadness. I say, no matter what, "Stock up". I have 38 lb in stock - not enough by a long, long shot - but 22lbs "on the water". All European tobaccos. I don't believe we have too long to build up the 20 year stock (depends on how old you are. Maybe you pull the trigger when the stock runs out), before it gets really expensive. Like unaffordable. And then we'll only be able to smoke at home in any case. Yes, I'm pretty negative about it, but that's the scenario I'm working to. If I'm much wrong I'll be smoking some wonderfully aged tobaccos.

20 years? Yes, it does indeed depend on how old you are. I once did the math, and for me to have a stock that would last me a lifetime (70 more years to go, at the very least) would mean I'd have to stock up around 140 kg. I can't justify that sort of expense now, or ever in the short period of time I see this hobby exist anymore. Of course, my predictions of it being around for no longer than about 10 years have generally fallen on deaf ears.

So I guess that when I run out of tobacco, I'll be forced to quit and I'll look for some other hobby. Actually, I don't have to look, my expenses will be channeled differently then, that's all.

Done deal. Research budgets get unprecedented cut recently, so it's starting to look like I missed my turn.

Seriously, today's world is full of absurd. It's everywhere. I hope someone will burn in hell for that.

this is an excellent move. Shift this here, shift that there a little slight of hand and the demise of tobacco is not "our" fault. Oldest trick in the book.

Guide to political Success by Pontius Pilate.

Lesson one: The washing of the hands.
Lesson two: Shift the blame
Lesson three: Deny and Lie

I'm south of the Misha line so I shouldn't get nuked right? Then again they may fly their bombers up from Cuba

Buying Tobacco in Bulk is Fun!!! Screw the Democrats.

Trying to high jack this thread eh ? :)

Very funny!