Colors of taste
An Italian smoker wrote an article on colors of taste (hard chemical flavoured excluded). Four levels, from "empty" to "full":
1) straw and hay
natural tobacco fresh and sparkling, not seasoned.
clear light tobacco flue-cured (virginia and some tropical)
combination: white wines young, fresh cheeses, fish and crustaceans.
2) milk and honey
the second level. Here are the good burley processed and black cavendish, usually sweet. Taste edge-round.
combination: sweet wine, liquor, desserts.
3) must and figs
good aging, complex taste. Red, brown and dark virginia behind the compositions. References: English traditionals, Continetal mixtures.
Typical additions: honey, figs, plums, molasses or maple syrup.
combination: red wines young and aged, meat, cheese very tasty.
4) wood and smoke
last level (maximum fullness and aftertaste) firee-cured and smoked. Here we find the latakia, kentucky and their mixtures.
Aftertaste persistent and fullness of flavors, good for meditative smoke.
combination: important italian and french red wines, barriques in general.
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compared various cereals to tobaccos also. Oatmeal is sort of a bland,earthy,and nutty product similar to burley.
Corn or wheat cereals have something extra in the taste department similar to Virginias.
Your cocoa puffs and other flavored cereals are similar to aromatics for those who prefer added flavoring.
I think it gives somewhat of an analogy when trying to describe differences to a lay person.
"If you can't send money, send tobacco." -George Washington to the Continental Congress, 1776
From my thread entries early in the spring:
Burley vs. Virginia, I thought of a good analogy this evening. Burley is like that remarkably young attractive woman who is just hotter than a $2 watch but simply doesn't know it. She seldom wears make-up, prefers Walmart to Macy's, beer to champaigne and flip flops to any footwear but is equally comfortable at the corner tavern watching football or a fancy dinner dressed to the nines. Basically, burley, (like our fictious girl) is flexible, low maintenance, adaptable and great, destined to win you over by sheer force of personality and good company, they expect you to do very little other than show up and be yourself.
Virginia on the other hand is the diva. That woman that you love to hate. She needs the best of everything, always has to be the center of attention, and will throw and absolute BF (b*#ch fit for the uninitiated) if you are less than responsive to even her most ridiculous demands. Attractive? well yeah, worth the effort? sometimes Someone you'd want to be around constantly? Not on your life. The diva and the NBT (non-burley tobacco) draw you in with their good looks and an air of sophistication and confidence. Yeah she might be fun for a while but she's awfully labor intensive and finnickey (pipe, puff pace, technique,etc.) If you fail at any of these little details, the whole experience begins to suck pretty fast. Ever try to smoke 3 bowls of a NBT in rapid succession? Even with the best technique and the slowest smoking possible my tongue feels like a cat. When you smoke a NBT too fast, they will let you know real fast! With burlies it simply just doesn't matter, I can chain smoke 5 straight bowls and smoke them as fast as possible with no discernable cat tongue. In the same way that the diva is a great person to have on your arm out in public, the NBTs are great for when their only job is to be there and monopolize your attention. Great tobaccos for reading and smoking PAINFULLY SLOWLY, great sitting and thinking tobaccos where burlies are great ANYWHERE, ANYTIME TOBACCOS.
English Blends: This is the Granola chick, the girl who never wears make up, seldom wears deodorant, burps like a man and has less than zero problem relieving herself in the woods (which is where she spends much of her time). Despite her sometimes less than genteal behavior, there's something you like very much about her. She's rugged, woodsy and don't really care what you think about it.
Perique Blends: This one took a minute, I'm a big fan so here goes. Perique blends are the lovely young Puerto Rican woman that you notice quite by accident in...we'll say a store. She's wearing a navy blue power suit with a white blouse underneath. As she leans over to get her milk out of the shopping cart you catch a brief but very enjoyable look at a scarlet red bra. This girl is spicy, nasty and a little bit trashy but you really like it and look forward to running into her again. You stake out the grocery store where you've seen her until you figure out which day she regularly shops. Saturday, you're there 2 hours before the store opens just to make sure you don't miss her. Writer's note: This is metaphorical only, I am not now, nor have I ever stalked anyone.
Scented Blends: This one took a while too but here goes. Scented blends are my Aunt Marge. She was my Dad's oldest sister. She and her husband, Spud (I'm not making this up) used to come down to Florida, every couple years to escape the shank of the midwest winter. Aunt Marge was the quintessential old woman of the 60's. Ton of makeup, big starched hair (probably half of which was real) the dress that looked like someone's couch and the cat eye style glasses with rhinestones on the frame and the shiny gold chain that held them around her neck when not in use. She wore these huge clip on earrings and a big pearl necklace about the size of Wilma Flintstone's. She used to pinch my cheeks and I hated it. She was a chore to be around but obviously her appearance and demeanor where great entertainment for a young creative mind, not unlike living with a cartoon character for a week. Of all of Aunt Marge's caricature like features the one that stands head and shoulders above them all is the smell of Aunt Marge. I don't know what it was but I've smelled it since on many older ladies. I used to imagine that old ladies went to some finishing school for old ladies and were issued huge quanitites of the putrid stuff and told where the secret cache was in case they needed more. If you've ever smelled it you know what I'm talking about old lady perfume. Aunt Marge apparently bought it by the truckload and slept in a puddle of it nightly. So thick and sickly sweet was the stench, it burnt my eyes. I'm sure it soaked into the walls and lingered in the house for a week to 10 days after her departure. I never much missed Aunt Marge when she went home but I only wish that her smell could leave when she did. Writer's Note: This one is real, I really did have an Aunt Marge just like this.
"Shall I say, I have gone at dusk through narrow streets and watched the smoke that rises from the pipes of lonely men in shirt-sleeves, leaning out of windows?" T.S. Eliot
That's the best explanation I've ever heard. I know all those people and flavours. I also love all of them for what they are. Especially the Perique Puerto Rican lady. Im totally in love with her. The Burley bitch is not bad either. You make me feel like making love to my pipe right now!
If it can't cut, it's a pipe!
I'm not agree but I find very beautiful and nice description 10LDGI :)
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... I associate those "perfumey" aromatic blends (like Captain Black) with hemoroids. If they come down and go back up quickly, not really a problem. But, if they come down and stay down, they are a pain in the ass!
My father used the same "hemoroid" analogy in regard to Yankee relatives that would come down to Florida for a visit and either go home soon or move in with ya for weeks.
I was there visiting for a week when Aunt Helen and Uncle Roy showed up(unexpectedly), coming from a bitter cold Wisconsin Winter. They pulled up in front of the condo and yelled at me... "Bob, would you mind getting our suitcases out of the trunk?" Then, Aunt Helen remarked in a complaining tone... "My God I don't know how you people can stand the heat down here!"
Later that evening my Dad remarked... "I associate those Yankee relatives with hemoroids. If they come down and go back up quickly, not really a problem. But, if they come down and stay down, they are a pain in the ass!"
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have twice been used in the tobacco analogies. I guess the stinky ones are a pain in the ass?
"If you can't send money, send tobacco." -George Washington to the Continental Congress, 1776
I guess my favorites would fall into category #3. I tend to favor Perique blends, and many of them have a pouch smell that reminds me of molasses.
I guess my favorites would fall into category #3. I tend to favor Perique blends, and many of them have a pouch smell that reminds me of molasses.
In the reading I have done on Curing Perique, it is not uncommon for that tobacco to be cured in a molasses based syrup and maybe that is why you are tasting molasses!
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& away from the chicks theme. I don't find Burley sweet at all. To me it's nuts & dark chocolate, those dry tastes. I can't find the Cavendish connection. On the first level - hay & sweet grass, I agree. This where I would put OGS. But he omits the smells of citrus. Are these toppings? I doubt it. I guess a level 3 tobacco would be OG. There are too many sweet things in this level. Where is the coffee, the bitter, the sourness of Va's (which are highly acidic). Level 4 seems to be mainly heavy English tobacco's. Wood smoke, yes, but again, the almonds, coffee, chocolate are all missing.
Am I confused about this in relating the tobaccos to the taste/ smell levels?
This classification, like all classifications, is imperfect.
I brought you only a small part of the original text (see the link)
The author considers only the aftertaste and the persistence of "natural" tobacco features. At the same time he says something about the added chemical typical of each category.
Clearly tobacco smoked and fire-cured are at maximum complexity while virginia clear and non-seasoned ones are less persistent and tasty.
On burley probably the author speaks only of what in Italy is possible to find. He write that the level of persistance of burlay blands is greater viginia of fresh (1) and less of virginia seasoned (3).
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Only some examples, 1 group:
G.H. Brown flake - Bright CR flake - Orlick Golden Sliced
young white wine (as chardonnay or pinot grigio or prosecco - maybe sauvignon)
young french Brie cheese or aged 3 months cheese
2:
Half and Half - C&D Night Train -
Porto wine or italian Marsala wine
dry biscuits with almonds
3:
Capstan blue - Full Virginia Flake - Esoterica Tillbury
young red wines (as cabernets or merlots or young italian reds like Morellino or Barbera)
pork ham and psrmigiano reggiano (or grana padano)
4:
CAO Old Ironside - Brown XX or N°4 - McClelland Dark Engl.
aged red wines as Barolo or Sassicaia, scotland whisky
dark chocolate without milk
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