Buying Bulk Tobacco is fun...

That is really about what I need to do...I am planning getting some samples (a few 2oz tins) of Riverboat Gambler and Exhausted Rooster...and if all goes as planned...I am going to get a big bulk order together and start jarring...I really can't see prices going anywhere but up...and that will be my birthday present for myself with whatever extra money is left over of this summers work after a bit some goes into savings and a whole lot goes into school...your blend isn't what I would usually pick out as my cup of tea...but I might just give i a whirl while I am at it...very lightly sauced I think though...maybe I'll try it unsauced...I don't know...

Cheers,

josh

The advantages of purchasing Captain Bob's Full Flavor Blend (CBFFB)in "bulk" for me, includes, never worrying about running out of tobacco, pound price vs 2 ounce price, maybe aging to some extent, but that is not a big deal for me because I don't have "that" much on hand for long term.

The jars are important, though, and I do highly recommend storing any opened tobak that way. Small opened tins are not a problem. They are good for a few months, usually. Large unopened tins from C&D are excellent for long term storage. I would not transfer an unopened pound tin to jars. But, an opened pound tin needs to be in a jar if I am not going to smoke it up in a month. Those rules work well for me.

If you try a sample of CBFFB "lightly-sauced" you could specify any flavor you wish, or you could specify the "original CB sauce" but tell them to go "very light" with it.

I like the large tins too...they make me not have to guess about things...and then for when I am storing for normal use...I use the latch-type jars with the rubber ring...and for storing I use Ball jars like what you use for jam...the system has worked very well for me...I have been able to keep tobacco in the latch-type jars for up to six months with no problems (never tried any longer)...and I have never had a problem with a properly used ball jar...I mean you really can't beat them.

anyway...It will probably be another month until I get to ordering any of this stuff...because it will happen after I get back home...so for now all I get to do is wait and anticipate the day I get to be back home with my whole pipe collection (over a hundred pipes...that I am planning on weeding to about 25 over the next year) and a place where I can actually ship things...having only about 6 pipes and not really being able to ge anything shipped to me has been quite the drag...oh well...soon enough...and I will tell them to go "very light" on the sauce...

we'll have to see how it goes with the initial samples first though...

Cheers,

Josh

Tobacco is so expensive here I've never had more then 600grams in my house.

it sounds like you are talking about another smokable substance...though I think prices on the two are about even in Oregon...with a 2oz tin selling for $20 at a B&M...that is why I have gone completely online...can't beat 50% savings...if not more...

Cheers,

Josh

Fun, But what a chore to decide what to buy!

Well. next buy from the US will be some ERRd, some C&D perique, and some Ennerdale flake

Bulk is the way to go. I've got another big order coming through right now from smokingpipes - all Va's, all from England. The logic being that I can see the UK becoming very restrictive in terms of taxes. So I nuked my stocks up a little. SG FVF, BBF etc. - pounds of the stuff. Incidentally, I found it pays to shop around - not all etailers are price-similar on bulk. I also realised that for me to buy a bunch of tins is just plain dumb - unless its a tobacco I must have & its not available in bulk. Tins carry a premium of around 75-100% cost-wise compared to bulk. And geez, I get a lot of satisfaction from seeing all those glass jars. Sure beats money in the bank.

the tins are most of the weight. A tin of 50g tin SG tobacco weighs 114g, more than half the weight is the tin. So if you are paying international shipping rates; bulk is the way to go. If the tobacco is not available in bulk ask to have the tins opened and tossed out and to ship only the tobacco. I am sure that some prefer to have the tin, but they pay a premium in shipping for it.

I started out slow. I think I now have about 58 lbs. stored. My wake up call came when I read no more internet buys in Michigan soon. I don't beleive everthing I read but still think bulk is the way to go. And YES it's FUN!!! I will keep on buying bulk as finances allow,or rather as the wife will allow. Im building heavy duty cabinets in the basement for the jars.
Regards,
Dave

Seems these anti's breed like vermin and why shouldn't they. It is about the only their ranks could swell to such an obscene level. Hopefully the effects of inbreeding should take hold in the next generation or two. Course be too late for us so we all might as well join in the fun.

Dave: 58 pounds ... you're my hero!

Chris: Of course these politicians have to swell their ranks and deal out new laws condemning tobacco sales ... its not like they have any other pressing business like, say, millions of americans suffering under high gas prices for example. Think of it ... they have time to push their liberal anti smoking agenda but when it comes to passing legislation that will relieve the nationwide groan over gas and oil prices they choose to go on vacation. This truely is one pissed off voter. After the democrats pulled this bull$#!^ yesterday I will never put a democrat in office again. Unfortunately its all academic. Rhode Island is so completely in the democrat's hip pocket that my teenie vote doesn't amount to a hill of beans. But I'll feel better for voting against them all.

Again?

If everybody thought that way, it would defeat the whole purpose of having a democracy and making your voice or opinion heard and count in the law-making process.

You knew that, though. I'm sure of that.

What I wanted to say was actually that this isn't a democrat vs republican issue. Or that of any other group on the political spectrum. Politicians are money-grubbing vermin, worse than cockroaches. Each time you get rid of one, there'll be two more ready to replace them, and nothing ever changes for the better. This comes from the guy living in a country on the brink of secession, a country with 6 governments which is also burdened by EU bureaucratics.

Be a responsible citizen, the US may actually have some freedom left. Vote. For others it is already too late (actually voting is mandatory here, but that's sort of tricky when the elections themselves are de facto unconstitutional). Oh well.

Didn't we have some idiot on ASP called Vox Populi? I think it was ASP. *shivers running down my spine* What ever newsgroup that was the guy was a complete moron. For a second there when I read your subject line I thought he'd found his way to MPC. Egads.

Yes, sad to admit I have put some democrats in office in the past. Not all of them were terrible people either. Unfortunately now-a-days they all seem to vote the party line only. That type of idiot I won't support regardless of his/her party.

As far as voting goes ... oh rest assured I'll vote. But I do it knowing that here in RI my vote really won't make a difference no matter what my attitude about it is. RI is about 90% democrat. The republican party can't figure out how to get their act together so the democrats just keep messing this state up absurdly. I'm not going to go into whats wrong with RI - why would you care (or folks from any other state/country for that matter). But I will vote. Men died in wars so I would have that liberty and I'll not disrespect their sacrifice by not voting ... no matter how useless an effort it may be.

1. Vox Populi is the latin phrase for The Voice of the People. In that respect that ASP twat/troll had the perverted arrogance to assume that what he says is what everybody thinks. The obscene part is that it's looking like he's turning out to be right, too. The voice of a nation of whimpering, sniveling, proselytizing, self-absorbed complainers.
2. Parties are, IMHO, an unwanted effect of the democratic process and end up being used as an instrument to consolidate power, influence and resources to the benefits of those in its higher echelons. It's probably less obvious in a 2-party system, but over here (I lost count of how many parties we currently have), that has always played, and currently still does through so-called cross-party gentlemen agreements to ostracize other parties or opinions that may or may not be voiced. There's still the internet as an opportunity to do so, but for how long before that too will be regulated to death is anyone's guess. It's already happening, though. I'll spare you the details.
3. that leads me to the next point. Through this party meddling and their abuse of power and the arrogance that came as a result, belgium is currently ungovernable. Also, you might be surprised at how interested some of us might be in the situation elsewhere, even in RI -- even though I can only speak for myself. Suffice to say that 90% is still better than 99% or even 100 ... As you say, people have fought for, and died, in the pursuit of freedom and liberty. And me, in this little piece of dirt on my part of the globe, fully realize that this has happened here too, with many efforts and sacrificed owed to the US of A on two occasions as well; something many of my peers over here seem to have forgotten, or plainly ignore.

It's a sad world we live in.

... "Buying Bulk Tobacco is fun" turned to politics, hey? Makes me wonder if I brought up the subject of politics, how might that topic evolve? No matter, I enjoyed all the comments. To be politically correct, I say, "screw the politicians" - buy some bulk tobacco!

Parties are the pawns of the higher echelons. That is an absolute truth, someone else pulls the strings. It is not less obvious in a two party system, instead it is more apparent and much easier to control. A party for the rich, a party for the poor and everyone is represented, right? Wrong, we are just lead to believe that because of the other pawn under their control, The Free Press! The free press is more than just the papers and the news, it now includes television and movies and soon the internet will also fall under their control.

Chris, that is total bullshit, this is a free country.

Well, you may wish to believe that but take for example; Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf

Yes, a silly example to us, but we all remember other parts of the world were cheering the defeat of the Americans. Control of the press has become a science since since the days of Josef Goebbels. The American press/media is no exception. Reporting day to day events, weather and newsworthy items is the side show. The press/media is no longer the tool that empowers the people, it is the sedative that saps free thinking. It tells us SHS is bad, obesity is bad, Muslims are to be feared, democracy is alive and well and Christmas is winter break.

The extent and aims of control of the press are arguable but not that it is controlled. Much more effectively now than it was in WWII and the only failure since has been the Nam era when all those flower slinging pot smoking hippies would not drink the kool-aid.

sorry Bob, this thread is now completely hijacked.

I'm so disgusted with the media here in the US. What happened to the days when the news was just that: "the news", not "opinion". The media here has completely sold out to the democrats (well, except for FoxNews). If you put on the evening news you'll see pro democrat agenda discussions all the time. You'll see the democrats that are running for office on screen a vast majority of the time. And the little time you see the opposition's images on screen the images are often of embarrassing moments or the reporter will be standing to the side of the politician with a sneer on his/her face.

Magazines have gone 100% hard core liberal democrat. I cry for the loss of life of the trees that died so their pulp could be made into the paper these magazines are made from. Such a loss of life for no GOOD reason.

Movies (and to a certain extent TV) are full of all the liberal agenda as well or they're just revolting. If we're not killing someone (and they must show us in detail how to kill right?), if we're not screwing someone (not the x-rated flicks, I'm talking PG stuff now-a-days), if we're not trying to call infantile stupidity as something funny - then we're pushing our agendas. Not long ago we were shown that cowboys are gay. Before that we were shown that Jesus was gay. And now on TV we're about to be shown two men dancing in loving embraces on the ABC TV series "Dancing with the Stars". Hey, have a blast if you're gay but don't push your agenda on me or my kids! There are so many other parts of the liberal agenda shown daily that I could outline but I'm starting to rant and its just too darn early in the morning to be like this.

Radio on the other hand is a totally different story. While the FM dial is generally just music with a little liberal slant, the AM dial has become the bastion of the republican voice. Its hard to find a radio station worth listening to on either side. (Thank God for XM Satellite Radio: 100+ channels of commercial free music! Oh yeah baby.)

The net result: I trust none of these media. I take a little from one show here, a little from one show there, and make my own decisions. Movies: I've just about sworn off them. I'm not paying $10+ to sit for a 2 hour liberal agenda indoctrination session. Magazines: no thank you to the whole lot of them. Radio: only XM and even then I'm selective. And you all wonder why I'm always reading a good book?!!!!

That's OK Rick, I am a conservative and I do watch Fox News most of the time. I am encouraged by pipe smoking conservatives and I believe that all liberals should have their pipes taken away from them (or they are not truly liberals).

You won't get my pipes!!

hm, well, I am not a liberal, I am more to the left, very very far left...

However, banning tobacco have been tried before, in europe, by a certain queen in the UK for example (royalists=far right).

And, socialists are not neccessarily against tobacco, think Cuba. Mr. Castro is providing the US with some fine leaf for example.

... be careful. It could bite you in the ass. I heard that Obama is planning to collect all pipes and tobacco in the US going door to door with an armed squad in search of those hording tobacco to avoid his future tax increases on leaf. One commentor says "Obama's regime has a tobacco tax planned that will make gas tax look like a gift."

Don't forget, when it comes to smoking, Republicans are your friends and Democrats are certainly not.

Enough about politics. I like you just the way you are.

My friends are my fellow pipe smokers. A very long time since I have felt any good about any political action I have seen. This regardless of orientation.

"Vi sitter i samma båt"

we are in the same boat

between Conservatism & Right Wing. And Left Wing & Liberal. They are very different indeed. The essential difference between the right wing & the left wing is that the RW seeks to maximize freedom, while the left seeks to maximize equality. Either side can be liberal (or libertarian in the case of the RW) or totalitarian (communist or fascist). Here is a quote from John C. Calhoun, the seventh vice president of the United States which clearly illustrates early US RW philosophy:

"Now, as individuals differ greatly from each other, in intelligence, sagacity, energy, perseverance, skill, habits of industry and economy, physical power, position and opportunity,—the necessary effect of leaving all free to exert themselves to better their condition, must be a corresponding inequality between those who may possess these qualities and advantages in a high degree, and those who may be deficient in them. The only means by which this result can be prevented are, either to impose such restrictions on the exertions of those who may possess them in a high degree, as will place them on a level with those who do not; or to deprive them of the fruits of their exertions. But to impose such restrictions on them would be destructive of liberty,—while, to deprive them of the fruits of their exertions, would be to destroy the desire of bettering their condition."

Over time, we have adjusted to severely watered down versions of RW & LW, as governments have taken a larger slice of the economic cake.

OK, enough already.

is nothing more enjoyable than getting several pounds of tobacco from your favorite e-tailer and sharing in the jarring activities. I agree with Bob, it is lots of fun!! I need to order some more, buy some jars and have more of this fun. I usually buy tins. Tins are no fun, I have tried stacking them and using them like lego's to make the Roman Coliseum and such. It is not as satisfying as handling pounds, smelling it and putting it in the mason jars knowing that it will one day emerge, well aged, smoother and sweeter to grace your bowls at some future time. It is indeed another aspect that makes this such a great hobby. Not to mention, stored pounds is better than a savings account as the price of tobacco rises and the dollar keeps falling more than the rate of interest. Yes, bulk tobacco makes this world a better place and we should all share in the fun, but we can do so much more for fun. Have you shot a politician today?

Man, there is some good stuff here.
As soon as I can free up 3 or 4 years, I'm gonna read this thread all the way thru.

Keep it coming guys!

5 lb, or 2.3kg, would cost $1150 in Canada, lol.

I can't have read that right ... you couldn't have meant One Thousand One Hundred and Fifty Dollars?

Thank you God that I live in the USA. I'll stop griping now about the politicians.

There was that incident on the bus. The guy was obviously a frustrated pipe smoker. That's a 600% tax! That's plain evil. By the way, is the booze also taxed so heavily?

50 cents a gram for LL or MC bulk tobacco, and then it goes up from there, even if you buy it in america you have to hope they don't catch you(and they will), because then you're paying the 400 dollar fine plus canadian taxes on what they >think< the product should cost in Canada, making it more expensive, not equal in price, to what you can get here. The worst of it is there is no tobacco selection because B&M tobacco shops can't afford the extreme overhead cost of stocking a big variety nor does the very thin margins they sell it for make it worth it. I can only think of 4 decent tobaconists in my province and the two provinces to the east. That's 4 tobacco shops(proper ones, dedicated solely to tobacco), for around 7-8 million people, lol.

Oh, and the tobacco shops that do operated here have to blackout their windows and have restricted signage. Actually sex shops, headshops(shops that cater toward marijuana users) and bars have a much easier time operating.

Consequently I often frequent the headshops for my tobacco needs, as they're keen enough to see pipe smokers at their wits ends and will order in pipes and tobacco. (I've gotten two stanwells, one peterson, and onc BC, not to mention, sporadicaly so, most of my perterson and soloni tobacco from them.) If you can stand incense and regae music for long enough to go in them that is.

To put that in perspective, $1150 can buy about 72 14oz cans of Prince Albert.

Or 40 pounds of Mixture 79. Wow, just thinking of that gives me nightmares.