Tobacco prices go up 400% What do you do?

According to a recent report, $18bn worth of food is wasted in England & wales each year. "They also estimated the average UK household needlessly throws away 18% of all food purchased. Families with children throw away 27%." (Google it).

And you want me to cut back on essentials, just because they cost more. In SA we have a saying: "'n bottel brandewyn teen enige prys is 'n winskoop". Tr (Neels will check me): A bottle of brandy is a bargain at any price.

have a motto, Be Prepared, that is very applicable to this situation, loosely translated I think it would be something like Cellar for the Future. If it were to happen I would cut back on tobacco purchases and be more selective about what I would buy but I do not think it would impact my smoking frequency.

#1 I cut back by 50%.

why?

#2 So my 10 year stash downstairs will become a 20 year stash.

why?

because sometime in the next 20 years I'll be able to purchase another 20 year supply.

This is why you stockpile
Either that or you will have to grow it

I would just limit myself to a bowl a day and probably skip a day here and there. I skip days now as it is.

GI brings up a good point. I would probably smoke a lot more Walnut and only buy a higher-priced tin on occasion.

1. Since Burley doesn't age all that great I tend not to cellar but the point is well taken that it will probably not hurt of have at least a few pounds stockpiled. (Hurricane evacuation also comes to mind). The saying says, "Failing to prepare is preparing to fail." Image if you had the capability to store and stockpile a couple thousand gallons of gas when it was $2 a gallon. Maybe a bit of hoarding (notice the d) is in order.

2. I said I'd probably cut down but then I'd really be a grouchy old bastard, about as pleasant as a genital wart. But I have to figure that a 400% increase in the price of some of my codger burlies (PA for example) would still be quite a bit cheaper than say a 400% increase in the price of say, Solani ABF or Old Gowrie. A fringe benefit of pedestrian tastes I guess. I think if most of us were telling the whole truth, we'd bitch a blue streak about it and suck it up, pay the price and enjoy our pipes while we all waxed nostalgic about the good old days when OJK wasn't $120 a pound.

with that increase, a tin of quality tobacco would cost about $133

I'd probably start to grow my own, make snus of it, and get some pipe tobacco on occasion.

It's already that much of a disparity between our prices and what I pay if I order from an American shop. So I order from American shops :(

I am buying as much for the celler as I can. Michigan, Is supposed to pass a law against buying tobacco online within the next two years. We only have a B/M and no real tobacco shops for about a three hour drive. The B/m doesn't stock much except mostly aros and will probably raise prices higher than market. I've got about 24 lbs.right now and will increase that by at least 3 before the law changes. I quit ciggs and have no intention of doing the same for pipe. I will smoke my 7 bowls a day come hell or high water. When the law passes the retailers will be fined if they ship here.
Dave

Bootlegging became a cottage industry. Every second home had a still. I reckon I could make some serious money dealing tobacco if the price went up 400%. Roll on the good times.

Lynch one of those so-called representitives of the people up.

About all we can do is try to vote the right people in. We did that and shut up the extreme gun control canidates. I wouldn't even mind paying the tax on online orders just to be able to have product selection.
Dave

But I'm gonna ask it anyway, if we elect these people to represent us, and we clearly live in a country based on the principles of maximum personal liberty and the personal responsibility that goes with it, then how come our elected representatives seem to get more and more socialist every year? If the Golden Boy of Hamas (Barak Obama) gets elected, I swear to God and Sonny Jesus, I'll pack up and move to Costa Rica. Muddler, I'll save you a room and you can winter in Costa Rica. We'll catch 80 lbs tarpon on a flyrod until we can't stand it, smoke pounds of OJK and drink enough cold beer to float an aircraft carrier. Not to mention eating lobster 3 meals a day. It's a dirty job but somebody has to do it.

apparently from one of Hitler's speeches, when he introduced gun control in 1935. Said it would make Germany a safer place & the world would follow. Enough said.

Here's Thoreau on politics (Life Without Principle): What is called politics is something so superficial & inhuman, that practically I have never fairly recognised that it concerns me at all.
In Civil Disobedience he says (of trying to get justice): As for adopting the ways which the State has provided for remedying the evil, I know not of such ways. They take too much time, & a man's life will be gone. I have other affars to attend to. I came into this world, not chiefly to make this as good place to live in, but to live in it.

A rebel after my heart, he refused to pay tax for 6 years & was jailed. He he.

Anyway, that's my take on politics. It's a crock. While the tobacco fields with 400% profit margins are growing in the Costa Rican jungle, let's go fishing.

well in Canada tobacco prices are already about 200% compared to everywhere else, and it hasn't stoped me.

I'll just have to get a part time job

They can jack up tobacco prices all they like!If I never bought another tin for the rest of my life I'd have enough cellared to get me through til' the day they put me in the ol' pine box.According to tobaccocellar.org I have 70+ years of tobacco put away at my current rate.It's a resassuring feeling indeed!

One of the smarter things I've ever done was to start "hard core" cellaring several years ago. I STRONGLY suggest you folks do the same.Two tins per week adds us to 104 a year and in five years it adds up to 520!....

Best,
D.J.

Not really worried about it. If tobacco went up 400% I'd imagine that it wouldn't be just from taxing. Global costs of other goods would have increased as much or close and tobacco would be the last thing for me to worry about.

Around here I'm fairly worried about it. Tobacco taxes were doubled in Sweden this year. A 100g tin (3.5oz) of pipe tobacco is now 65USD...

$65 US for a single tin of tobacco ... you've got to be kidding me right?

I was informed that in England a pound of Samuel Gawith is about $140 US. Europe can be a very punitive when it comes to taxes. When the tide rises some boats get more lift than others, not everything goes up equally.

I wish it was, Rick. For the same reason I have stopped buying pipes. I'm putting all my available funds towards tobacco purchases instead.

Are you going to buy bulk & then stash it? If so, in what size containers? There's clearly a good argument to build up a significant stockpile. It might be a good idea to debate how best to do it. DJ has built up a cellar of some proportions based largely on tins. His consumption rates are fairly low, compared to mine. But then I've probably got far less tread on my tires. At the rate I'm going, a 15 year stockpile seems optimistic.

Lars, old boy, please use your monumental intellect & find the algorithm.

Plain and simple - We don't have any bulk tobacco here, and I don't want to risk buying large amounts of tobacco online as it might very well end up being more expensive than what I can buy locally due to taxes and customs fees.

I'll be stocking up on 50g/100g tins of: Capstan Blue, Capstan Yellow, Three Nuns, Orlik Golden Sliced, Mac Baren Navy Flake, and a few other blends. Each tin has a date mark and badabing badaboom.

Ya know how Hollywood gets things done. This is MPC and we have far more resources. First we get rp to engineer some big container type statute, something like the statute of liberty, not as big and hollow. Then Sparks enters the picture, the master of cement, he constructs said statue and leaves a certain area weak so it can't be detected but easily smashed through to get at the contents. The next step is easy, you guys make your orders and have them delivered to Sparks who fills the statute. 1OLDGI will arrange for the Bush dude to gift the statute to Sweden and appoint you as an inspector so there is no shipping and you have access. Then you guys recover the booty and live happily tax free.

or

Check into gift laws and use us, I certainly would not mind forwarding them to you.

I used to have connections in Iceland, and I spent lots of time in Andoya, Norway but Sweden (the quintessential neutral state) took a dim view of American (or any other country's) GIs meandering their country I did visit Sweden once though, quite by accident flying into Oslo and the weather crumped on us. We were most politely escorted to the nearest bus heading to Oslo and away we went after a couple hours worth of bus window tour of Sweden we made our way into Norway and eventually made it to Oslo.

Although the statue sounds like an awesome idea, I think I'll look into the gift laws of the country and get back to you :)